Tore off the crane on the riser what documents. Tore off the first tap from the riser, flooded the neighbors. Who is responsible for the consequences? The management company of an apartment building - approves in its decision the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. Municipal apartment - solution

Useful in all respects, an explanation for residents of multi-storey buildings was made by the Judicial Collegium for Civil Cases of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. The high court spoke about which pipes in the house the management company is responsible for.

And the reason for such interpretations was a utility accident in one of the apartments. The injured owner, who had a flood due to a broken tap on the cold water riser, demanded compensation from the management company for its own costs to eliminate the consequences of the leak. The amount came out rather big, as the citizen added moral damage to the repair costs, a fine for the fact that public utilities voluntarily did not reimburse the amount, as well as the costs of the examination.

Already in court, the plaintiff said that she was the owner of the apartment. And as a result of an accident at the first shut-off and control valve of the cold water riser, her apartment was flooded. According to the victim, the management company is to blame for the accident, which "improperly performed the duties of maintaining the common property of an apartment building." Voluntarily communal workers did not admit guilt. I had to go to court.

The city court agreed with the plaintiff's demand and satisfied her claim. But the next instance - the judicial board for civil cases of the regional court - did not agree with their colleagues. She canceled the decision and adopted a new one - to refuse the citizen's claim. The plaintiff had to go to the Supreme Court, where the decision of the regional court was canceled.

Here are the arguments of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. The court stated that in order to correctly resolve this dispute, it is necessary to establish "the presence of guilt of the parties in the accident." And in the materials of the Court of Appeal there were copies of the decision of another court that entered into force on the claim of another victim in this flood. A certain man presented financial claims to a neighbor who had this tap on a cold water riser, as well as to the management company. The court decided the dispute in favor of the injured neighbor, but awarded the money to him only to the management company, and did not take anything from the neighbor whose tap broke. In this decision it is said that communal services are guilty of the accident that happened in the apartment of a neighbor. These conclusions of the court, which no one disputed, the appeal did not take into account. The law (CPC, Article 61) states that the circumstances established by a court decision that has entered into force are mandatory. And they are not proven again and are not disputed.

The Housing Code lists which equipment the management company is responsible for. And then there are the Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building. They were approved by the government (Decree No. 491 of August 13, 2006). The rules state that the common property, among other things, includes "common house engineering systems for hot and cold water supply, consisting of risers, branches from risers to the first disconnecting device." And managing apartment buildings companies are responsible to the owners for violation of obligations and are responsible for the proper maintenance of common property.

There is another law that is useful for citizens who find themselves in a similar situation - "Technical Regulations on the Safety of Buildings and Structures" (No. 384 of December 30, 2009). The Supreme Court said that from this law, as well as existing standards and codes of practice, it follows that the first disconnecting devices and shut-off and control valves on the outlets of the intra-apartment wiring are elements of intra-house engineering networks. These first shut-off devices and shut-off and control valves meet the basic hallmark of a common property as being designed to service some or all of the rooms in the house.

If the equipment is located in an apartment, this does not mean that it is used only to service this apartment.

And the fact that this equipment is located in an apartment does not mean that it is used exclusively for servicing this apartment, and cannot be attributed to common property in an apartment building, since the Housing Code provides for its location both inside and outside the premises.

The Judicial Collegium for Civil Cases of the Armed Forces emphasized: the circumstances indicating that the emergency plumbing equipment belongs to the property of the plaintiff or to the common property of the residents of the house are significant for resolving the dispute and are subject to proof. When the appeal reviewed the decision on this dispute, she stated that the plaintiff, along with the replacement of the internal engineering networks in the apartment, which are her property, also replaced the shut-off valve, due to which there was an accident. But the lady categorically disagreed with this statement, and the court of second instance did not check this and "did not reliably establish it."

Legal advice:

1. Should the first faucet from the riser, inside the apartment, be replaced free of charge?

1.1. In accordance with the Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building, approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of August 13, 2006 No. 491 risers, specified disconnecting devices[/quote]. The current repair of the specified device is part of the maintenance of the common property and is carried out depending on the way the apartment building is managed.

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2. Who is responsible for the first tap from the central riser?

2.1. The management company is responsible for the maintenance of the crane, in accordance with clause 5 of Decree 491 of 08/13/2006.

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3. Whose responsibility is it for the first faucet at the outlet from the riser in a private house?

3.1. In residential buildings, in-house engineering systems include those located within the land plot on which the residential building is located, as well as engineering communications (networks) located in the residential building, mechanical, electrical, sanitary and other equipment, which are used for the consumption of utilities.

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4. At whose expense is the repair of the first tap from the common water supply riser carried out?

4.1. by the apartment owner.

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5. Who should pay for the replacement of the first riser faucet?

5.1. Management Company.

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5.2. The managing organization (UO, HOA, ZhSK), since in accordance with paragraph 5 of the Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building (PP RF No. 491 dated 08/13/2006), the FIRST tap on the OUTLET of the intra-apartment distribution of cold water, hot water and heating systems refers to the COMMON property of an apartment building.
Therefore, the maintenance and repair of such a crane should be carried out at the expense of the funds that the owners of the premises pay monthly just for the maintenance and flow. repair of the common property of MKD.

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6. They flooded the neighbors two floors down, tore off the first tap from the riser. That is, it is public property. What is the best thing to do at the moment - to compensate the neighbors for losses immediately or to do an examination? If reimbursed immediately, will it be possible to return this money from uk?

6.1. If you can prove in court that the flood was the fault of ex. company, then let the neighbors sue. But you will need the services of a lawyer, as the company will heavily shift the blame on you. It's up to you, good luck!

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6.2. Contact the Criminal Code to draw up an estimate and an act on the flooding of the apartment. Submit a written claim (Post. Pr-va 470 apply). In case of refusal, apply to the court with a claim. I do not advise you to pay for the damage at this stage.

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7. This morning they flooded the neighbors two floors down. The first faucet was torn off from the riser, that is, it must belong to the house. What should I do in such a situation?

7.1. Egor, call the Criminal Code, neighbors and draw up an act on flooding and establishing the fact of a leak - a broken tap.

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8. I live in an apartment building. I own the apartment. In my apartment, the first tap from the riser does not hold water. I called the housing and communal services, they told me that I should buy a new faucet and pay for repairs. Is it legal? After all, the first tap from the riser is the common property of an apartment building, and they must change it at their own expense. I pay monthly. services in housing and communal services.

8.1. according to the law, this is the responsibility of the housing department, write a claim to them, it can help. In the event of disputes, they will claim that you installed the faucet and therefore you are also responsible. In the case of courts, the chances are 50/50. Therefore, if you do not agree, it is easier to buy a crane at your own expense, the nerves will be safer.

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9. There was a flooding of the lower apartment. The reason is the wear of the pipe thread, which is included in the first stopcock in the apartment. Next comes a piece of pipe, a counter and further to the mixer. Who is responsible for the damage? I read judicial practice: the court recognized the first shut-off valve from the riser as apartment property, because it affects the water supply of one apartment. There is a chance to win in court if the defendant of the housing cooperative, and the chairman of the housing cooperative claims that there is a meeting of members of the housing cooperative, which approved that the apartment is yours and answer yourself.

9.1. Under the circumstances described - no, although the decision of the cooperative cannot change the ratio of common and personal property in the house - the first statement (the court recognized the first stopcock from the riser as apartment property) is enough to admit the guilt of the owner of the apartment.

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9.2. It is advisable for you to contact a lawyer in person with this question; you need to look at all the documents in the case and it is not a fact that it will be possible to decide in your favor.

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10. At home, the faucet is out of order, which is the first from the riser and shuts off the water to the apartment.

10.1. good day to you
Dear Andrey, in this case, this is not a repair of common property, but a repair in your apartment. Therefore, the requirements of the Criminal Code are legal, by the way, they are also not required to change it for free.

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10.2. This is your area of ​​responsibility and your property, so everything is correct. Good luck to you and all the best to your loved ones.

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11. As a result of the detachment of the first faucet from the mud filter (no repairs are carried out, it did not touch pipes, taps, etc. at all), 4 floors were flooded. The question is who is responsible for the crane and who pays for the damage. Thank you!

11.1. Hello,
In this situation, the owner of the apartment where the breakthrough and initial flooding occurred will compensate for the damage.
I wish you good luck and all the best!

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11.2. We take an agreement with the Criminal Code and read / look at the page where the zones of delimitation of responsibility are schematically indicated.
In accordance with sub. 5-9 p. 2 of the "Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building ..", approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of August 13, 2006 No. 491, the common property includes in-house engineering systems of cold and hot water supply, consisting of risers, branches from risers to the first disconnecting device (including it) located on the branches from the risers, the indicated disconnecting devices, collective (general house) cold and hot water meters, the first shut-off and control valves on the outlets of the intra-apartment wiring from the risers, as well as mechanical, electrical, sanitary -technical and other equipment located on these networks.
Study these acts carefully, it may turn out that the fault will lie with the Criminal Code.
In general, there are a lot of nuances in this matter, it is better for you to seek personal advice from a lawyer.

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12. The first cold water tap from the riser burst. (next to the stand). Whose fault, who is responsible for the crane?

"Taking into account these technical features, the first shut-off devices and shut-off and control valves correspond to the main feature of common property as intended to serve several or all premises in the house. The fact that the specified equipment is located in the apartment does not mean that it is used to serve this premises exclusively and cannot be classified as common property in an apartment building, since subparagraph 3 of part 1 of Article 36 of the Housing Code of the Russian Federation provides for its location both inside and outside the premises.In this regard, the applicant's argument that the first shut-off and control valves on the branches of the risers located inside the apartment and therefore intended to serve this apartment is unreasonable.”

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13. My apartment is on the ground floor. In an apartment on the 3rd floor, a riser tap burst, flooding all 3 floors. The act of flooding from the Criminal Code indicates that a mistake was made during the construction of the house (the house was put into operation 1 year ago). Conducted an assessment, wrote a claim to the Criminal Code, they replied: "they sent a claim to resolve the issue to the developer." And now it's taking a very long time again. How long do I have to wait for a response? And who to sue?

13.1. The interested person has the right, in accordance with the procedure established by the legislation on civil proceedings, to apply to the court for the protection of violated or disputed rights, freedoms or legitimate interests.

Must respond within a reasonable time. General 30 days.

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13.2. A claim for damages is filed against the person who caused the harm. If the flooding occurred through no fault of the owner of the apartment, then the claim is filed against the Criminal Code.

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14. At the outlet from the hot water riser, the tap that shuts off the water broke. The faucet was changed 3 months ago when installing a water meter. Due to the accident, apartments on 3 floors were flooded. Who will be responsible and compensate for material damage? The management company says that their property is up to the first disconnecting device from the riser, and the crane is already our property. Are they right?

14.1. Yes, Elena. They are right. The crane is obliged to repair the owner of the apartment.
For a more accurate answer, it is better to visit a lawyer in person with all available documents
Thank you for visiting our site.
Good luck to you.

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15. My apartment was flooded, as a neighbor's ball valve was "torn" in half from above, blocking the mountains. water to the apartment. That is, he is in his kitchen, and the tap is the first from the riser. To whom to make claims if the Criminal Code and the neighbor blame each other? Maybe, in general, to the developer company? The house is new, the apartment has been owned for 2 years (from the date of construction). And this, it turns out, is not the first case in the new buildings of this company.

15.1. The management company had to draw up an act on the gulf, in which it should reflect the location of the technical damage that caused the gulf, and also indicate in whose area of ​​responsibility the place of damage is located. You can apply with a separate application to the Criminal Code for clarifications in whose area of ​​responsibility the place of damage was located

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15.2. Make claims against both the management company and the owner. The court will determine the guilty person in the process of considering the case.

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15.3. it has nothing to do with it .. pull the neighbor .. let him attract whoever he wants .. he is the culprit now by default

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16. The first shut-off valve from the riser in the threaded connection above the valve that shuts off the water broke through in the apartment. ZhEK said that if the thread is higher, then the tenant is to blame. In general, this faucet is a one-piece part, and as far as I understand, it is all this shut-off valve.

16.1. No, the fault of the housing office in this case is obvious

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17. After the first tap, a metal-ceramic hose was torn off from the riser and the lower floors were flooded with water. For 10 years, the management company has never done an inspection. Who is guilty? And what should I do next. Downstairs neighbors are demanding compensation for the bay.

17.1. The Criminal Code is guilty, file a complaint with the GZHI

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18. Please help with advice. I just fixed a hot water leak, the first faucet from the riser burst. I did not change the faucet, it was already installed at the time of buying an apartment, tomorrow morning I go to the management company. Who will be right in this situation, me or the management company?

18.1. Well, since you have eliminated the leak, then you will be right that you still had to do something

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19. As far as I know, the replacement of the inlet water tap in the apartment should be free of charge, since this is the first locking device from the cold water riser. But the master of the housing department requires payment for both the work and the cost of the crane. Which one of us is right?

19.1. Nobody. According to the text, this is really common property, replacement and work is carried out at the expense of all owners, and not just you specifically.

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20. Please explain to me on the fingers whose first faucet is on the outlet from the riser in my apartment, or I read the decision of the homeowners association.

20.1. up to the locking device - property for which the Criminal Code is responsible.
afterwards is your responsibility.

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21. A pipe with hot water broke through at the junction of the riser with the tap (the thread from the riser to the first screw into the apartment rotted) who is to blame: the management company or the tenant of the apartment?

21.1. Before the first disconnecting device, the management company is responsible - this is the common property of the MKD

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22. My name is Ruslan, in my apartment a lamb flew off from a ball valve, extending from a common riser. They flooded the neighbors, the HOA says that I am to blame, but I have a different opinion. Now I have no clarity on who should be responsible and check the first tap leaving the riser.

22.1. Up to the first tap, including himself, is the responsibility of the HOA. The rest is you

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23. Our tap broke - the first from the riser (the locking device pulled out). The management company admits that it belongs to the common property of the house, but since we changed it when moving in (the crane installed by the developer was leaking), then we must answer to our neighbors. The faucets have not been checked by plumbers at home for 5 years, the plumber changed the faucet during repairs, there are no checks for the faucet and replacement services. How to act in such a situation?

23.1. Anton!
If they admit that the faucet belongs to the common property of the house, then it was they who had to monitor it, check it, repair it, etc.
So, let them compensate the material and moral damage to the affected residents.
Thank you for visiting the site with your question. Good luck in resolving your problem!

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24. The first tap from the riser dripped in the apartment and flooded the neighbor. The crane has been standing for more than five years, the apartment is Brezhnevka, we bought the apartment four years ago. The apartment is privatized. In the housing office they told me that it was our fault, if there was an old wing faucet, then the fault was the Management Company. Tell me, please, whose fault is it?

24.1. file a complaint with the prosecutor

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Legal advice:

1. It flooded us from the attic, the housing cooperative said the bum tore off the tap, who in this case pays for the repair.

1.1. Svetlana, you need to file a lawsuit against the housing cooperative. They did not provide you with the safety and security of property. It was necessary to close the attics, and not make them a haven for the homeless.

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1.2. The management company must compensate for the damage. Make a damage assessment and file a claim. Give 10 days to transfer money to you. If you refuse or do not receive a response, then go to court. The state duty for such a claim is not paid, you can also ask the court for compensation for moral damage, legal costs.

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1.3. SW. Svetlana, it is necessary to draw up a statement of claim, as a defendant it is necessary to indicate ZhSK.

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2. The faucet on the hot water riser broke off. Is this the area of ​​responsibility of the housing department or mine?

2.1. If the tap is located directly on the riser. , then this is the area of ​​​​responsibility of your housing department. Good luck to you and all the best.

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2.2. The area of ​​responsibility of the managing organization ends at the first locking device in the apartment. The rest is in the hands of the owners of the apartment. If this is the first faucet and you did not install it yourself, then you may well claim damages from the Criminal Code.

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2.3. Depends on where the faucet is located. If the screen is located at the junction, then it belongs to the zone of the housing department, if on the allotted pipes, then to the owner.

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2.4. Up to the first disconnecting element, this is common property, the rest is your property. (Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of August 13, 2006 N 491 "On approval of the Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building").
"5. The common property includes in-house engineering systems of cold and hot water supply and gas supply, consisting of risers, branches from risers to the first disconnecting device located on branches from risers, these disconnecting devices, collective (general house) metering devices for cold and hot water , the first shut-off and control valves on the outlets of the intra-apartment wiring from the risers, as well as mechanical, electrical, sanitary and other equipment located on these networks.

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3. Tore off the flexible hose on the hot water tap.

3.1. If the bay, then the owner of the apartment is responsible for such a malfunction. After all, he is required by law to monitor the condition of his property. If damage is caused to third parties during the bay. The owner will reimburse him.

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4. How to challenge the guilt of the bay if the May faucet was torn off the batteries.

4.1. ---Hello, no matter how you dispute.
Article 210. Burden of maintenance of property
[Civil Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 13] [Article 210]

The owner bears the burden of maintaining the property belonging to him, unless otherwise provided by law or contract.

Good luck.

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4.2. Can be challenged if you prove the absence of guilt (pressure jump)

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5. He twisted the tap and tore off the seal, which they do.

5.1. Write an application to Vodokanal for re-sealing.

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6. They accidentally broke the seal on the tap of the water utility. What is the penalty.

6.1. Administrative responsibility is provided for this -

Article 19.2 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation - Deliberate damage or disruption of the seal (seals)

Intentional damage or tearing of a seal (seal) affixed by a competent official, except for the cases provided for by Part 2 of Article 11.15 and Article 16.11 of this Code -
shall entail a warning or the imposition of an administrative fine on citizens in the amount of one hundred to three hundred roubles; on officials - from three hundred to five hundred roubles.

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7. The fire hydrant in the bathroom was torn off in the apartment. Who is responsible for this incident? The Criminal Code claims that all taps that are after the risers are the responsibility of the homeowner.

7.1. You have a project crane, carefully study the management contract, the limits of responsibility must be spelled out there. To the shut-off valve (fire)? Was the builder doing the welding?

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8. The tap on the hot water riser broke (drip) in the apartment. They called plumbers from the housing and communal services, they announced the price of 1500 rubles. The tenant refused to pay and wrote a refusal. After that, the crane tore off and flooded the residents of the lower floors. Who is to blame in this situation from whom to collect compensation for repairs?

8.1. --- Hello, the owner of the apartment and is guilty of flooding the apartments below.

Sincerely, lawyer Ligostaeva A.V.

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8.2. Anastasia Nikolaevna! If the tap on the pipe from the riser was torn off - the fault of the management company.

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8.3. The owner is to blame "Civil Code of the Russian Federation (Part One)" dated November 30, 1994 N 51-FZ (as amended on December 16, 2019)
"" Civil Code of the Russian Federation Article 210. The burden of maintaining property

"" The owner bears the burden of maintaining the property belonging to him, unless otherwise provided by the "law" or the contract.

"Open the full text of the document"

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9. Good afternoon. Rented apartment. The owner lives in the north. The other day, some kind of coupling at the hot water pipe was torn off. The floor faucets do not work in the apartment. It is necessary to replace part of the pipe and replace the taps. To do this, you need to block the riser. CC is asking for payment. But they have no information about the owners. So there is no contract. This pipe was changed and taps installed by the previous company, which disappeared. Are the actions of the current Criminal Code correct?

9.1. Are the actions of the current Criminal Code correct?

It is not entirely clear what specific "actions" we are talking about.
If it is about the requirement to pay for the services rendered, then this requirement is quite legal. The Criminal Code has the right to require citizens to pay for the services rendered.
If we are talking about the repair of communications that are common property, then the management company must carry out work at the expense of the budget provided specifically for these purposes. ;-)

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10. They flooded the neighbors two floors down, tore off the first tap from the riser. That is, it is public property. What is the best thing to do at the moment - to compensate the neighbors for losses immediately or to do an examination? If reimbursed immediately, will it be possible to return this money from uk?

10.1. If you can prove in court that the flood was the fault of ex. company, then let the neighbors sue. But you will need the services of a lawyer, as the company will heavily shift the blame on you. It's up to you, good luck!

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10.2. Contact the Criminal Code to draw up an estimate and an act on the flooding of the apartment. Submit a written claim (Post. Pr-va 470 apply). In case of refusal, apply to the court with a claim. I do not advise you to pay for the damage at this stage.

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11. This morning they flooded the neighbors two floors down. The first faucet was torn off from the riser, that is, it must belong to the house. What should I do in such a situation?

11.1. Egor, call the Criminal Code, neighbors and draw up an act on flooding and establishing the fact of a leak - a broken tap.

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12. The son died on January 17, on January 19, the tap was torn off in the apartment and the neighbor was flooded, I, as the heir, was presented with a claim for repairing the flooded apartment, is that correct? The case was promised to go to court.

12.1. Vologda!
Article 1175 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation Liability of heirs for the debts of the testator
1. The heirs who have accepted the inheritance are jointly and severally liable for the debts of the testator (Article 323 of the Civil Code of the GF).
Each of the heirs is liable for the debts of the testator within the value of the inherited property that has passed to him.

2. The heir who accepted the inheritance in the manner of hereditary transmission (Article 1156 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation) is liable within the value of this hereditary property for the debts of the testator to whom this property belonged and is not liable with this property for the debts of the heir, from whom the right to accept inheritance.

3. The creditors of the testator have the right to present their claims to the heirs who have accepted the inheritance within the limits of the limitation periods established for the respective claims.
Prior to acceptance of the inheritance, creditors' claims may be brought against the executor of the will or against the estate.
In the latter case, the court suspends the consideration of the case until the inheritance is accepted by the heirs or the escheated property is transferred by way of inheritance to the Russian Federation.
When claims are presented by the creditors of the testator, the limitation period established for the relevant claims is not subject to interruption, suspension and restoration.

Good luck Vladimir Nikolaevich
Ufa 10.10.2018

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12.2. The inheritance opens with the death of the testator. After the death of a son, his heirs bear the burden of maintaining the property. You will be responsible for causing harm if you do not prove that it was caused by the fault of other persons (for example, when installing a crane).

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13. In a non-residential apartment, a tap was torn off and neighbors from the 4th floor were flooded, how can this issue be resolved. Flooded not kretichno.

13.1. Sergey. The owner is responsible, negotiate with the neighbors, if not, then they can recover through the court, the amount of damage must be justified, for example, by the conclusion of an expert appraiser.

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13.2. In case of going to court.

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14. Such a question. Before the start of the heating season, they began to fill the systems with water in the apartment; Mayevsky's tap broke off, as a result, the apartment was flooded from below, but not much. Neighbors demand 7 thousand or they go to court. who is to blame for this situation, and who should pay for repairs.

14.1. The heating system, in accordance with the Rules for the maintenance of the common property of the owners of an apartment building, is part of the common property. Before the stopcocks, if a leak has occurred, then the HOA (or the Criminal Code, depending on what you have) is responsible. You are not to blame for this bay. Perhaps the heat supply organization is to blame, which, during pressure testing, gave more pressure than necessary.

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15. In our house, the batteries were pressure tested and our tap was torn off. The apartment is on the top floor, the house is old. There was a very strong fountain, it’s good that we didn’t drive far from the house, but the apartments below us suffered. There were no job announcements. Who is guilty? The UK says that we are, but we think that the pressure was high and we have a valve to release air throughout the riser. Who is to blame in this case? Thank you.

15.1. Did the faucet break? Is the call of the emergency brigade documented? Submit a request to the organization supplying thermal energy - were tests carried out, was water supplied that day after the suspension?

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15.2. You need to apply in writing to the Criminal Code with a request to explain what work was carried out. Next, walk through the residents of flooded apartments and find out if acts on the bay were drawn up. Further, depending on the desire of the victims. If there are no complaints, then take an appropriate receipt from them, if there has not been an act yet, but they plan to, be sure to personally be present at the same time, if the act has already been drawn up, inspect the apartment for the coincidence of the damage caused to the records in the act. Then you can write a claim to the Criminal Code with a demand to compensate for the damage, wait for an answer and make a decision on going to court. For a more accurate answer, you need to understand the situation in more detail.

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16. Please tell me. Who should pay for repairs. If the tenant rented a house and flooded the neighbors. At the same time, the faucet was torn off by the pressure of water?

16.1. The owner is fully responsible for the damage. You also need to look at the terms of the lease under the contract. Good luck to you and all the best.

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16.2. In this case, the owner of the apartment is responsible in accordance with Article 209 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation. But if the tenant is at fault, he has the right to recover this damage from him after compensation for damage to the neighbors.

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16.3. Harmmaker.
Article 1064 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation. Harm caused to the person or property of a citizen, as well as harm caused to the property of a legal entity, is subject to compensation in full by the person who caused the harm.
By law, the obligation to compensate for harm may be assigned to a person who is not the tortfeasor.
A law or an agreement may establish the obligation of the tortfeasor to pay compensation to the victims in excess of compensation for harm. The law may establish the obligation of a person who is not the tortfeasor to pay compensation to the victims in excess of compensation for harm.
(as amended by Federal Law No. 337-FZ of November 28, 2011)

2. The person who caused harm shall be released from compensation for harm if he proves that the harm was caused through no fault of his. The law may provide for compensation for harm even in the absence of fault of the tortfeasor.
3. Damage caused by lawful actions is subject to compensation in cases provided for by law.
Compensation for harm may be denied if the harm was caused at the request or with the consent of the victim, and the actions of the tortfeasor do not violate the moral principles of society.

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17. Tore off the faucet in the bathroom 5 tons of water leaked. Is it possible to pay at least half for water. What documents for this NPDO.

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18. The house is new! On guarantee. I bought an apartment from a shareholder. I replaced the filter taps and meters, as the neighbors said that they often break them off, because they are unreliable. Pipes from the builder are propylene.
It's been almost a month since the replacement. And then one fine morning tore off the transition sleeve from polypropylene to the faucet. What to do? Who claims? And how to proceed?

18.1. Contact the Criminal Code of your house, let them draw up an act with the involvement of neighbors, do an examination of the damage and write a claim demanding compensation for damages to the Criminal Code and wait 10 days then go to court.

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19. Our tap was torn off and the neighbors were flooded. I am 73 years old and I am a disabled person of the 2nd group. The insurance company paid the neighbor for damages, and sued me for reimbursement.

19.1. in this case it is possible, it is necessary to appoint an examination in court and determine the damage, or, if possible, negotiate with them.

"Civil Code of the Russian Federation (Part Two)" of January 26, 1996 N 14-FZ (as amended on May 23, 2018)
Article 965

1. Unless otherwise provided by the property insurance contract, the insurer that paid the insurance indemnity shall transfer, within the amount paid, the right to claim that the insured (beneficiary) has against the person responsible for the losses compensated as a result of insurance. However, the condition of the contract, excluding the transfer to the insurer of the right to claim against the person who intentionally caused losses, is void.
2. The right of claim transferred to the insurer shall be exercised by him in compliance with the rules governing relations between the insured (beneficiary) and the person responsible for the losses.
3. The insured (beneficiary) is obliged to transfer to the insurer all documents and evidence and inform him of all the information necessary for the insurer to exercise the right of claim that has passed to him.
4. If the policyholder (beneficiary) has waived his right to claim against the person responsible for the losses compensated by the insurer, or if the exercise of this right has become impossible due to the fault of the policyholder (beneficiary), the insurer shall be released from payment of insurance compensation in full or in the relevant part and shall have the right to demand a refund overpaid amount of compensation.

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20. In my apartment, due to the high pressure, the faucet broke off and flooded my apartment. At the neighbors located below, the water flowed only through the riser, the situation and property were not damaged. How to fix the absence of claims from their side to me?

20.1. Take a simple receipt from them that they have no claims against you due to the flooding of such and such a number, no material and moral harm has been caused to them.

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21. The thread on the faucet in my bathroom was torn off, I was at work and it leaked to the neighbors downstairs. They have a false ceiling and tiles on the walls, there is no visible damage, but there was water on the floor. The neighbor wants us to change the suspended ceiling and the wiring in the bathroom or with money (I'm afraid to ask how much) or he will sue us. What is the right thing to do in such a situation?

21.1. In addition to the words of the neighbors that they allegedly suffered, there must be supporting documents: an inspection report, an expert opinion on the amount of damage, etc.
Let the neighbors first provide evidence of the damage caused to them by your actions (inaction)

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22. In July, they put a seal on the tap in front of the meter for non-payment, a week later the seal was torn off without permission and began to be used in November, the gas workers arrived again and for unauthorized breaking of the seal they cut the pipe. 58700 rubles is it legal or not?

22.1. In July, they put a seal on the faucet in front of the meter for non-payment, a week later the seal was torn off without permission and began to be used in November, the gas workers arrived again and for unauthorized breaking of the seal they cut the pipe, the debt was 10 thousand rubles, at the moment the debt has been paid off, but a fine for breaking the seal in the amount of 58,700 rubles has come is this legal or not?

Answer: What do you think?

Housing and communal services / Management companies and HOA

Who is responsible for the condition of the first hot and cold water tap? Apartment owner or management company (HOA)? One way or another, every apartment owner faced these questions. The tap is leaking, at whose expense is the replacement? The crane was torn off - who will pay for the damage? So, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation in its decision states: the management company is responsible for the condition of the first from the riser of the crane.

Who is responsible for the first water tap in the apartment from the riser?

Hot and cold water in apartments of apartment buildings is supplied through the so-called "risers". From them, through the "outlets", intra-apartment wiring is carried out at the points of consumption (sinks, bathtubs, toilets, etc.)

At the same time, the risers are part of the common house property and the managing organization is responsible for them (HOA, management company, etc.). And the owner of the apartment is responsible for the "bends". The line of responsibility runs along the first crane after the “riser”. But who is responsible for the crane itself?

The current legislation interprets this moment as follows:

In particular, paragraph 5 of the Rules of the Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building says:

... The common property includes in-house engineering systems of cold and hot water supply, consisting of risers, branches from risers to the first disconnecting device located on branches from risers, indicated disconnecting devices, collective (common house) cold and hot water metering devices, the first shut-off and control valves on the outlets of the intra-apartment wiring from the risers, as well as mechanical, electrical, sanitary and other equipment located on these networks ...

(Rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building, Clause 5)

It seems that everything is clear - the first cranes from the riser are part of the common house property. However, in real life, public utilities act according to their own logic. Here is one of the stories.

An accident occurred in the apartment of a resident of Magadan - the tap on the "comb" of cold water, located at the outlet from the riser, was torn off. Water flooded the apartment and spilled into the apartment on the floor below. The total amount of damage was more than 10,000 rubles.

The management company voluntarily refused to compensate for the damage. The landlord had to sue. The City Court of Magadan satisfied the plaintiff's claims. However, the utilities challenged the decision in the regional court. They motivated their position by the fact that the owners of the apartment put the ill-fated "comb" on their own, not observing the technical requirements for this type of work. Accordingly, they are not responsible for the condition of the self-installed crane, and they are not required to compensate for the damage.

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, where the owner of the apartment applied, put an end to the proceedings. The judgment of the Court states:

... The first shut-off devices and shut-off and control valves on the outlets of the intra-apartment wiring are elements of in-house engineering systems designed to perform the functions of hot and cold water supply, gas supply, as well as the security of the premises of an apartment building.

Providing the supply of utility resources from utility networks to in-house equipment, these elements change the parameters and characteristics of in-house engineering systems, thereby influencing the maintenance of other premises of an apartment building.

Taking into account these technical features, the first shut-off devices and shut-off and control valves correspond to the main feature of common property as intended to service several or all premises in the house. The fact that the specified equipment is located in the apartment does not mean that it is used exclusively for servicing this premises and cannot be classified as common.

The circumstances indicating that the emergency plumbing equipment belonged to the property of S. Yu. Bilenko, or to the common property of the residents of the apartment building, were legally significant and subject to proof.

When considering the case, the court of appeal referred to the fact that Bilenko SV. along with the replacement and re-equipment of the internal engineering networks, which are its property, the shut-off valve (shut-off and control valves) was replaced at the junction with the outlet from the common cold water supply riser, which caused the leak, and which is the common property of the owners of the apartment building.

The plaintiff disputed these circumstances, but the court of appeal did not check them and did not establish them for certain.

Simultaneously replacing the shut-off valve does not release the managing organization - Zhilservis LLC from the implementation of its obligations for the maintenance of the common property of an apartment building, assigned to the company by a concluded agreement ...

Full text of the decision of the collegium of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation in this case.

The new owner of the apartment does not always think about what problems he may face. One of them is risers and their replacement.

The property, along with the living area, now includes communications, including common house ones. So who is responsible for the risers in an apartment building, and for whose funds the replacement should be made, we learn from the article.

Replacement

Communications located inside the apartment and which can only be used by the owner and residents are private property. Actions in relation to them may be different. Of course, if it does not harm the property of neighbors and does not violate their rights and interests. The owner has the right:

  • replace old pipes with more modern ones;
  • change mixers and counters;
  • increase or decrease the number of plumbing;
  • change batteries, etc.

This is done voluntarily and at your own expense. With the right of ownership, you can make such changes.

In addition to the right, the owner of the housing also bears the burden that obliges him to keep the property in good condition and pay for:

  1. water;
  2. sewerage, etc.

Here the question arises of who owns the pipes connecting each apartment with utilities. It turns out that this is the common property of all owners. Consequently, the pipes located inside the apartment are private property, and the risers are common.

Repair and replacement of water pipes, sewer pipes and heating pipes are regulated by:

  • rules and regulations for the technical use of housing stock;
  • rules for the maintenance of common property in an apartment building;
  • manual for the repair and maintenance of MDK 2-04.2004.

Owner Responsibilities

According to the regulatory documentation, the decision on the need to carry out current repairs or major repairs is made by the apartment owners. The responsibilities of owners of housing and common property include:

  1. maintain the technical condition of common house communications;
  2. if necessary, decide on repairs.

The owners themselves are allowed to make repairs regarding equipment that serves only their apartment. Management companies are engaged in the repair of common property. This is a non-refundable contract that provides for monthly payments that tenants are required to pay. In return, general maintenance services are provided.

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Carry out the repair work necessary to ensure that the risers of heating, water supply, sewerage are in good condition, the housing office or other companies with which the corresponding agreement has been signed are obliged. To start work you will need:

  • plan for their implementation;
  • an act stating the need for repair of a
  • or parts of the riser;
  • leaks and other problems.

You can also contact the Housing Office with a statement, after consideration of which an answer should be given.

First tap

Who is responsible for the condition of the first from the riser of the crane, the owners of the living space or the management company?

Over time, almost every owner is faced with this issue. If the faucet leaks, who should pay for the damage?

The supply of hot water and cold occurs through the so-called "risers". From them, thanks to the "bends", there is an intra-apartment wiring at the points of use (bath, sink, toilet, etc.).

As it turned out, the risers are common house property, for which the managing organization is responsible. The landlords are responsible for the withdrawals. The first crane from the riser is the boundary of responsibility. But who is responsible for it?

ATTENTION! According to the legislation, namely clause 5 of the Rules for the maintenance of common property, the first taps from the riser are not private property, but are included in the common property.

Payment

Actions aimed at collecting additional funds from residents for the repair of risers are considered illegal. After all, repair work is already carried out at the expense of apartment owners.

ATTENTION! The payment of utility bills includes the column "maintenance and repair of housing." The size of the amount is affected by the footage of the room and the number of residents.

According to the norms of MDK 2-04.2004, the list of services included in the rent includes:

  • emergency work;
  • maintenance of common property;
  • Maintenance;
  • communications service.

Therefore, the replacement of the riser in the apartment is free of charge, since payment has already been made. In the case when a major replacement of risers on each floor is required, funds are taken from payments for major repairs.

However, there are exceptions when the owner of the apartment, at his own request, made structural changes, as a result of which repairs are required. In this case, all costs for replacing the riser are borne by the owner, the work is carried out by him independently. If neighbors also suffered damage, they also need to compensate for the damage.

Procedure

In case of sudden malfunctions, you should immediately contact the Housing Office or the management company. To do this, a corresponding application is drawn up in free form addressed to the head, at least 2 photographs of communications must be attached. Signed and dated.

There should be two copies of the document, one remains in the housing office, the second should be taken with you, a mark of acceptance is put on the application. In order for the application to be accepted without problems and questions, it is important that the owner of the apartment does not have any debts for utilities.

Before writing an application to the Criminal Code, you can call a plumber at home, who, after inspecting the sewer riser, draws up an act, also fixes the existing damage and the need to replace the riser. The event can develop as follows:

  1. The repair team responds in a short time and replaces the emergency riser. The owner must provide access to the bathroom for repair work.
  2. The managing organization does not agree to replace the vertical line, referring to the fact that the pipeline is located in the owner's apartment and it is the owner who is responsible for it. In this case, a written refusal is issued. This document is the basis for going to court, although the process itself can take several months.

Carrying out the procedure

Before starting work, you should discuss the current situation with your neighbors, otherwise the cutting will be carried out from ceiling to floor. Sections of the damaged riser will remain in the ceiling, which can cause leakage.

The presence of representatives of the management company is mandatory, it is they who block the riser and drain the water. Next, the pipeline is replaced in the following sequence:

  • using a grinder, damaged pipes are removed from the floor slabs;
  • make markings for tapping branches;
  • install new pipes and wiring;
  • connect water, while checking all connections.

The selection of pipes for hot water and heating systems is carried out taking into account the fact that they are not subject to deformation under the influence of heat. Preference is given to polypropylene pipes, which have certain advantages:

  1. do not deteriorate under the influence of corrosion;
  2. easy to install;
  3. economical;
  4. environmentally friendly;
  5. do not have internal limestone deposits.

Installation of the central highway according to the legislation should be carried out every 25-30 years. This applies to house networks, heating pipes inside apartments, water supply in non-privatized apartments.

IMPORTANT! Over time, any pipes can fail, this often leads to pipe splitting, leakage and, as a result, damage to property.

Since not everyone has information that the replacement of the riser should be carried out at the expense of the management company, owners sometimes change the riser in their apartment on their own. Knowing the responsibilities of the managing organization, you can avoid unnecessary costs.